Monday, 16 February 2009

this is stupid........

Nathan is blacked out: Stand up against "Guilt Upon Accusation" for New Zealand http://creativefreedom.org.nz/blackout.html

This is a stupid law. Read more about it at the website.

5 comments:

tommo39 said...

Sorry I disagree Nathan, people have been blatantly breaking the law with regard to intellectual property, I dare you to find someone who hasn't. If people don't like it, they should stop downloading illegally and they'll have nothing to fear!

yomcat said...

So someone accuses you (or your flatmate, or someone at your Uni) of downloading something. Bye bye Internet.

If they can prove it, fine, wipe out the internet. But guilt upon accusation is wrong.

Nathan Bayliss said...

I don't have a probelm with people having there internet discontect as punishment for braking copywirte law, but only when fould gulity in a court of law. This is not what this law says. It says that if someone is acucsed ( not convicted) of breacking copywrite law, they can have there internet dicontected.
If someone (anyone!!) in your flat is accused ( marly accused, not found guilty, then the internet will be cut for your flat. Thats wrong. All you as an artist will have to do is say that Im dowloading your music illgally, and they will cut internet to Laidlaw, wether i am or not. I can see one recourd campany doing it to another to take out the compition. It will get stupid.

Ill be one of the first to say I have a probem with the way people a riping off artisit by illagally. In fcat, If you look at my cd collection, you would see its all leagal. But this law is not fair. Its wrong. It goes agaist on of the most fundamental pricaples of our leagal system- Incocant untill proven guity.

tommo39 said...

Make sure you and your flatties know the implications of illegal downloading then. And let's get this straight. Just like parents haven't stopped smacking kids, common sense is going to be used to regulate it. ISPs aren't going to cut someone's connection unless they know they've been downloading illegally, and let's face it, it's not a hard thing to find out for an ISP. They know where you've been, and illegal download sites aren't all that secretive about what they're doing.

I don't know why people are so freaked out by this law, it's really a very transparent process. You download an illegal file, your ISP can check in a jiffy whether you've actually done so or not, and act accordingly.

Don't thieve intellectual property, and don't let your flatties thieve it, and your connection is safe!

yomcat said...

"I don't know why people are so freaked out by this law, it's really a very transparent process. You download an illegal file, your ISP can check in a jiffy whether you've actually done so or not, and act accordingly."

No, they can't. There are ways to hide what you've downloaded (yes, even from your ISP). Checking every compressed file is a bitch. And then you just encrypt it. ISPs lack the resources to do check every file. They'll just cut you. Or get sued, like what's happening in Australia.

Oh, I don't download copyrighted material that I'm not supposed to. I just don't want my Internet cut because some tosser thinks I do. I use bittorrent for downloading some stuff, and my ISP has no idea whether it's legal or not. They just get packets on certain ports.